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Concealed gun law is 4 years old Few problems in Portage County; license holders now required to reapply

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By Marci Piltz

Record-Courier staff writer

Four years have passed since the first applicants obtained licenses to carry concealed handguns in Ohio.

Those license holders must now renew their licenses in order to keep them active.

Portage County Sheriff Duane Kaley said the licenses, which were first issued in April 2004, are good for four years from date of issuance. Anyone wishing to keep their permit active must apply for a renewal, and can do so anytime within 90 days prior to the expiration date listed on the license. Once the license expires, an additional 30-day grace period is allowed for renewal, Kaley said, but licensees are not allowed to legally carry a concealed weapon until the license is renewed.

The passage of the bill four years ago had some law enforcement officials skeptical of what might happen once the licenses were issued. Ravenna Police Chief Randy McCoy said at the time he didn't think allowing citizens to walk around armed was a good idea.

On Friday, he admitted the Ravenna police have not had any major issues. However, he said, he still is not a proponent of the act.

"Do I think you should be able to protect your home, your family and your property? Heck yeah. I believe in the Constitution and you should have the right to bear arms in your own home," he said.

A major concern McCoy voiced four years ago remains a concern for him today: Not much training is necessary or required to obtain a concealed carry permit.

"In law enforcement, we're constantly training and reviewing policies. A firearm is a deadly weapon, and we train each year in the proper use of it," McCoy said. "Once you get a concealed carry license, you're in like Flynn until it expires."

Kaley said approximately 1,550 CCW licenses have been issued in Portage County since April 2004. Of those, he said, only five have been revoked and eight applicants denied after completion of a background check.

For those needing to renew their license -- the expiration date is printed on it -- an application for renewal can be obtained from the Portage County Sheriff's Office. The application asks for all addresses lived at since the age of 18 and verification that the CCW pamphlet has been read; a new passport size color photo taken within 30 days of the renewal application; the original or renewed training certificate of competency and a valid photo identification.

Upon successful completion of a background check, a new license will be issued with the original license number with a new expiration date that is five years from the date of the renewal. During the renewal process, the current license will remain valid but must be surrendered to the sheriff's office upon issuance of the renewed license.

The original training certificate of competency is valid for license renewal purposes if the issue date is less than 6 years prior to the renewal application date. If the original certificate is older than 6 years, then a renewed certificate of competency must be obtained with an issue date prior to the expiration of the original certificate. If more than 6 years have elapsed since the original certificate issue date, then the entire 12 hour CCW course must be completed, with a new certificate issued, before a new CCW license can be applied for.

Kaley said applications for CCW license renewals can be picked up at the sheriff's office or by visiting the sheriff's Web site at www.co.portage.oh.us/sheriff. A $55 money order must accompany a renewal application. Applications will be processed between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m. on Tuesdays and Wednesdays and while appointments are not required they are suggested to limit wait time. Appointments can be made by calling (330) 678-7012.

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    Posted by randyBHP February 25, 2008
Following up on ErnieP's point #2 about the level of training of LEO's vs CHL holders:

1. We are trained and expected to back away from and, if need be, run away from a fight if able to do so safely. LEO's are trained and expected to run towards trouble.

2. One big difference is weapons retention training. LEO's spend (or should spend) part of their training time on weapons retention. They (at least uniformed officers) spend their working days with their weapon out in the open and are known to be armed by anyone that sees the uniform. They often get into physical confrontations that place their weapons in reach of a suspect.

We keep our weapons concealed (you know, the first "C" in "CCW"?) unless and until needed. Attackers hopefully won't know we have it until we get to the point of drawing it. We are not expected to wrestle with attackers to subdue and arrest them.

3. We only need to engage an attacker long enough to remove the threat, break contact, or to give enough time for LE to arrive and take over the situation. If we pull our weapon and the attacker takes off running, we're done. We are back to provinding responding officers with information and descriptions. We aren't in the business of chasing, arresting or negotiating with criminals.

I would be interested to see what level of training the Chief would accept as being the minimum for Citizen CCW.

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    Posted by luke311 February 25, 2008
For more information on concealed carry permits and state permit maps you can visit USA Carry at http://www.usacarry.com

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    Posted by Dan Leonard February 25, 2008
McCoy says, "Do I think you should be able to protect your home, your family and your property? Heck yeah. I believe in the Constitution and you should have the right to bear arms in your own home."

What a dolt. So you believe I can defend myself in my home, but I can't defend myself or my family while in the public? What kind of a warped view of the Constitution is that? Do I only have the right of free speech while in my home? Do I only have the right of redress of grievances while in my home? Do I have any of my rights, granted by God, only while in my home?

And all this is coming from a police chief, who is supposed to know and uphold the law. If you can't understand the people's rights, how can you effectively serve as chief of police? I hope you get thrown out on your ear.



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    Posted by ErnieP February 25, 2008
To Chief McCoy:

1. Regarding "we train each year in the proper use of it," might that be _once_ per year? Even if it isn't: want to bet that the typical CHL holder shoots more often than your typical LEO? (Perhaps a friendly match is in order.)

2. CHL holders are NOT law enforcement officers so our level of training NEED NOT be the same.

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    Posted by jamesmarkov February 24, 2008
The constitution provided for an individual to provide for his own defense. If you want to dispute this statement, read the Federalist papers. They are key to what the founding fathers actually meant when they actually wrote our constutition. In fact the US Supreme Court has quoted the Federalist papers a total of 291 times in their rulings so far(as of the year 2000).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_Papers
It is not the law abiding citizen who the police need to fear, who take classes and get a license to protect themselves. Its the knucklehead thugs who pack illegally, and impose the "hood tax" by robbing and terrorizing the community.

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