By Dave O'Brien
Record-Courier staff writer
The fall semester will see the demolition of Kent State University's Small Group Upper and Lower Plaza buildings.
At the same time, as many as 250 students will be cramming, four at a time, into temporary bunks in the study lounges of half a dozen KSU residence halls.
But according to KSU officials, it's supposed to be this way.
The 11 Small Group buildings are located at the northwest corner of East Summit Street and Loop Road and on Loop Road across from the KSU Ice Arena. Dedicated in 1968 or 1969, they each housed approximately 100 first-year students each for 40 years.
Demolition of the three-story Altmann, Apple, Harbourt, Heer, Humphrey, Metcalf, Munzenmayer and Musselman halls is expected to begin sometime after demolition bids are opened Sept. 5 by the Office of the University Architect. The demolition also is expected to save Residence Services $2 million a year in utility, personnel, repair and renovation costs.
Meanwhile, KSU's expects increased enrollment this year, though numbers are not official until two weeks into the new school year.
That increased enrollment at the university has led to as many as 250 students being asked to live in converted lounges in the "New Front" residence halls " Dunbar, Prentice and Verder " located on the north side of campus near East Main Street and the "Quad" halls " Lake and Olson " on Williams Drive next to the MAC Center.
So, why not put off demolition for a year and house the students in the Small Group buildings? University officials say the living situation would be neither comfortable for students nor conducive to handicapped access.
Tom Euclide, executive director of facilities planning and operations, said a facilities assessement done in 2005 estimated the cost of renovating the 11 Small Group residence halls at almost $25 million.
Euclide said the buildings are "in great shape" structurally, with roofs and brickwork that has been maintained over the years. But $25 million, or about $2 million per building, would have only given the university another 10 to 15 good years on the life of the halls, he said.
"The biggest problem with them is that they're not handicapped-accessible. Every wing is on a different elevation, and we'd either need multiple elevators in every building or major renovations to the lobbies of the building to put in one main elevator," Euclide said.
Inside the buildings, "the electrical system was at the end of its useful life, the mechanical system was at the end of its useful life" and maintenance crews were dealing with an increased number of pipe failure, he added.
"It's the things that make it more comfortable for the students" that made the university decide to take the Small Group buildings offline, Euclide said.
KSU has added 1,600 student beds since 2000 with the construction of eight new residence halls. Residence Services Director Betsy Joseph previously said KSU had 600 empty beds when classes began in fall 2007.
Operating closer to full capacity, she said, avoided having to increase room and board rates. State funds and tuition money from students do not pay any costs for Residence Services, which is funded entirely with room and board fees paid by students.
Euclide said a housing overflow "is a good thing" for the university, which always sees a number of "no-show" students in the fall or others discovering "college isn't for them," he said.
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Small group BFE, thats where we liked to be. I lived in McSweeney in 94-95. Lower plaza was great, never lived with a better group of people. FYE was actually a good time, even though it was on the edge of campus. Glad to see they are tearing them down to put students in Study lounges. I really dont understand why they have to be handicap accessible. There are many other options. I used to think I liked "progress"
I don't quite understand why KSU is tearing down these buildings when there will be students sleeping in lounges in a couple of weeks. Granted small group doesn't compare to some of the newer dorms on campus but they are still dorms. President Lefton should have to sleep in a lounge for a couple of weeks...I bet the tune of this situation will change real quick.
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Posted by AndrewP August 11, 2008
Small group, when I attended back in 1995, was FYE, Freshman Year Experience. That's the only types of students the dorms housed were Freshman only. Seriously, what college student still living on campus would WANT to live FAR from their classes?
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Posted by Beckwith August 11, 2008
What is going on at Kent State? The solution is obvious. Use the existing small group housing until new dorms are built. One of the small group dorms is good enough for the program from Turkey, but not for Ohio students? Housing will know in advance which students are handicapped and need special access. Don't assign them to these dorms. KSU will waste lots of money moving students into lounges, but does not have the common sense to use the obvious solution. KSU has gone down hill since Carol Cartwright left.
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Posted by cabbie August 11, 2008
My son, when a freshman at a private college, had to live for a year in a "converted" basement because of overcrowding. They lived 4 to a room and were so crowded their "closets" were outside in the hallway! They had to WALK up 2 floors to use the restroom, because the building had no elevator. Granted, he survived the year, but it doesn't make sense to make students cram into temporary spaces when they could just delay demolition a year or so. After all, some of the classrooms are in 40 year old buildings - I don't hear them talking about tearing those down because they are too expensive to renovate - they just don't bother. Too much money, I guess.
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Posted by jamesmarkov August 11, 2008
Do the students who are "4 to a bunk area" get a discount over other students with standard rooms?
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Posted by billshane342 August 10, 2008
So if the biggest problem in Small group is handicap access then don't assign handicap students there. Shuffle them to the new dorms and move those folks down to small group.
Just for this year or so, or until the on campus over crowding slows down. A few years ago they put students in lobbies, offices and even considered the gym. Talk about crappy places to stay.
how about some common sense about putting the breaks on eliminating small group for this year?
Common sense in high education admin. now there's a novel idea.
Where's president Schwartz when ya need a man to run things?
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Posted by Rob Anderson August 10, 2008
It appears, jimbo13501, that you are at least aware of the spending priorities set by some asministrators such as those of KSU that allowed them to hoard a rainey day fund approximating $300 million dollars while ignoring certain preventive maintenance of their building stock.
Ever noticed the brick faces blowing off KSU's Library from stories on high? Or how's about the "quaint" porches recently added to protect folks entering/exiting the Smith/Williams/SRL Hall Science Comples from the spalling concrete facade? Both situations preventable with the proper preventive maintenance.
We won't go here into any discussion about what constitutes a sensible program to manage asbestos in place as far as such bureaucracies are concerned, eh? Just make sure you don't mention the "A" word, eh?
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Posted by jimbo1350 August 10, 2008
I think somebody High Up at KSU looked at the University of Akron and got "Building Envy"
My boys are attending private and state campuses in their quests for degree's. Local and out of state.Most dorms are 60s and 70s vintage.
Built for the Baby Boomers.
A 40 year old building is not old if kept up. The ADA standards should have been in place 15 years ago. Who was asleep at the wheel for that one?
This makes no sense. Unless your an Admistrator on an ego trip , hoping to make a legacy for yourself at someone elses expense.
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