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Dems, GOP split on NY terrorist trials: Giuliani: Will give radicals a platform

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By Jim Abrams

Associated Press

WASHINGTON — Bringing those accused in the Sept. 11 attacks to New York for trial would increase the security threat to the city and give radical Islamists a platform to propagate their ideology, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said Sunday.

Giuliani’s view that the Obama administration is erring in trying Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four others near the site of the World Trade Center was echoed by other Republicans on the Sunday news programs.

Democrats defended the decision of Attorney General Eric Holder to try the five in New York where more than 2,000 civilians were killed on Sept. 11. If someone murders Americans in this country, they should be tried in the U.S., said Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee.

“I don’t think we should run and hide and cower. Let’s use our system,” Leahy said.

Republicans argued that the five are war criminals and should be tried in the military tribunals where other Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, detainees will be judged. They disputed administration arguments that these five were conspirators to a crime committed on American soil.

“What the Obama administration is telling us loud and clear is that both in substance and reality the war on terror from their point of view is over,” Giuliani said. Moving the case to a civilian court, he said, “seems to be an overconcern with the rights of terrorists and a lack of concern for the rights of the public.”

The former mayor was similarly critical of the administration’s handling of the shooting spree at Fort Hood last week. President Barack Obama, he said, “doesn’t get the fact that there is an Islamic war against us.”

Rep. Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, top Republican on the House intelligence committee, said the trial could expose the people of New York to years of propaganda from the defendants.

“We are now going to rip that wound wide open and it’s going to stay open two, three, four years,” he said. “They are going to do everything they can to disrupt it and make it a circus” for their radical ideology, he said.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a former senator from New York, said she had no problem with Holder’s decision to try Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, and the others in the state. She said it was important to note that New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg and other officials believe that holding the trials in the city is appropriate.

Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., said there was no better group of people to determine the guilt or innocence and the punishment for these men “than the people in New York who saw the towers fall.”

Reed added that Mohammed and the others wanted to be considered as holy warriors, and “if we try them before military officers, that image of a soldier will be portrayed by the Islamic community. That’s not the image we want.”

Republicans also took issue with a statement from a White House official that the administration may buy a near-empty prison in northwestern Illinois to incarcerate suspected terrorists now housed at Guantanamo. “Why move them into the United States while we are still under the threat from radical jihadists?” Hoekstra asked.

Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky said moving prisoners to Illinois could be a “huge issue” in that state, particulary in the Senate race in the state next year.

Giuliani appeared on “Fox News Sunday,” ABC’s “This Week” and CNN’s “State of the Union.” Reed and McConnell were also on Fox. Clinton spoke on ABC and NBC’s “Meet the Press.” Hoekstra and Leahy appeared on CBS’ “Face the Nation.”

 




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    Posted by Uknown November 18, 2009

I guess my post beginning "don't get me wrong," since it was not deleted by recordpub, finally struck the proper tone.

How's your ear, Theophilus? Do you have perfect pitch?


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    Posted by Uknown November 18, 2009

Don't get me wrong. I don't think that a person who "forges" other people's online names in comments to recordpub should be indicted for similar bad behavior in the world at large. But it makes me wonder.


http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/4626833


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    Posted by Uknown November 17, 2009

There are a lot of people here who are annoyed with your adolescent behavior, Theophilus.

If you can't be a good net citizen, please go back to Dungeons & Dragons and leave us the hell alone.


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    Posted by Theophilus November 17, 2009
Jeff is obsessed.

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    Posted by Uknown November 17, 2009

Fake Kent Sheetz at #17,

What, am I supposed to call you a religio-fascist now, because you called me a Marxist? How old are you, anyway, Theophilus?


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    Posted by Theophilus November 17, 2009

Not my comment at #16. It's the work of progressive, Democratic/Marxist dirty trick artist, the Record-Courier Faker. Grow up, Theophilus!


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    Posted by Uknown November 17, 2009

Not my comment at #15. It's the work of conservative Republican dirty trick artist, the Record-Courier Faker. Grow up, KentCouncilWatch!

http://www.recordpub.com/news/article/4616202


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    Posted by Theophilus November 17, 2009
Great post MilitaryMomma

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    Posted by MilitaryMomma November 17, 2009
These terrorist belong in a Military Court System. This is going to be a big circus for New York and a new target.

They do not deserve our justice system, they were not born here. These people being tried hate all Americans and this decision is just going to bring more of the nuts out.

Let's stop playing that game of it's the left or Rights fault. Why not think of us as UNITED BY ONE NATION?

Let's not even bother to think about all the small business people who will probably lose everything because of the security nightmare this will bring.

Mr. Bush has made errors and so has Mr. Obama. After the incident at Fort Hood when Mr. Obama spoke he acted like it was no biggy that one of our own murdered soldiers, he even seem to try to minimize the act as not to hurt anyone. Having family in the Military this made me sick to me stomach.

I was also was very surprised that when the Crisis like at Fort Hood or the 9/11 we will bring up God, . Then when some time goes by we start back with SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE. This is a joke.....

THIS PRESIDENT IS OVER DOING THE POLITICALLY CORRECTNESS OF EVERYTHING, that said I still pray for him and this great nation we live in.

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    Posted by starttyrant November 16, 2009
Helspont, the only reason we're so reluctant to try these morons is it's going to be a mess thanks to the Cheney torture memos. We had no problems trying the WTC van bombers from 93 because they were exactly the same as the 911 twerps except they weren't tortured along the way...
Torture is un American, so is abandoning our justice system out of fear of a few cave dwelling egomaniacs.

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